Zenon Panoussis <oracle@xs4all.nl>
Martin Cleaver wrote:
> I find it extremely worrying that the prosecution
They do not. I know that scientology has been filing
complaints against me to the prosecuror for years now,
and I have to assume that what I know is only the top
of the iceberg. Put yourself in the prosecutor's shoes.
He knows that the scienos are a bunch of liars, he knows
that the complaints are most probably false, but he does
have a certain obligation to investigate if the complaints
*seem* credible enough. The word"seem" is the key here;
after all, you don't really know what's true unless you
do investigate. Scientology has no scruples against lying,
so they can easily make a complaint seem credible.
The way I see it, today's raid was based on insufficient
suspicion evidence, but humanly it was rather natural and
to be expected after all the pressure that scientology has
put on the authorities. For all I know, the prosecutor
probably thought "Let's search. If we find nothing, then
we can definitely tell scientology to go to hell and get
rid of them. If we do find something, then they might have
been right all along and we have to acknowledge and protect
their rights either we like them or not". Strictly speaking
this way of arguing is against the law, which requires a
certain strength of suspicion before a search (the mere
repetition of a complaint does not strengthen it), but
from a human point of view it's understandable.
The end result is going to be that the prosecutor will be
even more careful next time scientology complains. If he
waited four years before acting wrongly this time, he will
wait forty-four years before doing the same next time. At
the end of the line this *strengthens* the rechtszekerheid
of the citizen (and it's really remarkable that English has
no word for rechtszekerheid).
> What has happened to freedom of speech in Holland
Freedom of speech and copyrights are exceptions to each-other:
freedom of speech is an exception to copyright, but copyright
is also an exception to freedom of speech. Besides, criminals
have rights too, as scientology's lawyer Ruprecht Hermans
accurately pointed out to the court in scientology's case
against Karin (which he lost, and see footnote). It's a balance
of interests and, as all other balances, it has to be made by
humans. It will therefore never be perfect and its standard
can only be judged in relative terms. Well, while Dutch
justice realy sucks, I am still much happier to be living
in Holland than I would be in most other places in the world.
That's very relative, but it's what actually counts.
Z
Note: Hermans pleading at the Hague district court: "The
possibly criminal nature of my clients is not relevant
to this case". Tsja. Nobody in the audience managed to
keep a straight face.
Raided again
13 Sep 2002
> service and police in Amsterdam allow themselves
> to be used by intimidating crooks like this [...]
> if you can't stand up and say that $cientology is
> an evil, criminal, brainwashing scam? And provide
> it with their own laughable documents?
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